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Author: richinct

Joined: 10/23/2012
Posts: 14
Trips Taken: 1
Traveler Since: 2013

August 17, 2013

 We are getting close to our trip beginning 10/3. Would love to hear from any recent travelers with tips and info. Seems like we have been waiting forever to take this trip having originally booked it for last spring and had to change.

Author: nanaandpapa

Joined: 3/30/2011
Posts: 490
Trips Taken: 15
Countries Visited:

Aruba, Austria, Australia, Bermuda, Belgium, Botswana, Canada, China, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Rep., Egypt, England, Fiji, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, India, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Jordan, Luxembourg, Mexico, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Puerto Rico, Russia, South Africa, Spain, St. Marten (fr), St. Martin (nd), Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine, USA, Vatican, Zimbabwe

Traveler Since: 2002

August 17, 2013

 We deinitely sympathise, as we ended up cancelling or being cancelled twice before geting to go on this trip in 2007, even after having visas. We did a blog/trip report a few years later to document the trip, basing it on an earlier trip report and photos. I don't believe that the itinerary has changed enough to make this totally invalid. It may help to answer some questions. We would also try to answer any questions that we could. The blog is http://jackthetravelingman-china.blogspot.com.

Author: wattsed

Joined: 3/30/2010
Posts: 137
Trips Taken: 3
Countries Visited:

All seven continents, 113 countries and all states except Hawaii and Idaho.Plus some interesting places that are not countries such as The zores, Falkland Islands, South Georgia, etc.

Traveler Since: 2010

August 19, 2013

Thanks for the pictures and blog, Jack...I have wondered how things have changed since my wife and I did this trip and your pictures give me a much better idea.  The reason I say this is that our cruise boat was the last that went up the river before they closed the gates on the Three Gorges Dam...Much of the dam was not fully completed at that time and the locks were just in the beginning stages of construction.  Many of the villages slated for destruction had been demolished only slightly above mid-point..Lots of change since then!

Author: nanaandpapa

Joined: 3/30/2011
Posts: 490
Trips Taken: 15
Countries Visited:

Aruba, Austria, Australia, Bermuda, Belgium, Botswana, Canada, China, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Rep., Egypt, England, Fiji, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, India, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Jordan, Luxembourg, Mexico, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Puerto Rico, Russia, South Africa, Spain, St. Marten (fr), St. Martin (nd), Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine, USA, Vatican, Zimbabwe

Traveler Since: 2002

August 19, 2013

 Ed,

As an engineer, I had my doubts about the design of the dam being straight across reather than curved like most, but they appareenly just used a massive structure. I would have loved to see the boat elevators in use, but they were not complete at that time. One thing that really impressed me about the project was that they did the park land in parallell with the project, rather than as an afterthought.

Author: wattsed

Joined: 3/30/2010
Posts: 137
Trips Taken: 3
Countries Visited:

All seven continents, 113 countries and all states except Hawaii and Idaho.Plus some interesting places that are not countries such as The zores, Falkland Islands, South Georgia, etc.

Traveler Since: 2010

August 20, 2013

Jack, I know what you mean...when I was there all they were talking about was it was a disaster waiting to happen...some engineers were also commenting that the entire 400 mile length of the lake would silt up very quickly because of the design...It has been around 10 years since they closed the gates so I guess it is working so far...at the time we went up the lesser three gorges, there was a bridge that crossed across the mouth of the river flowing into the Yangze..at that time.we were told that when the lake was at full pool that bridge would then be 205 feet under water.. that was hard for me to believe!

Author: nanaandpapa

Joined: 3/30/2011
Posts: 490
Trips Taken: 15
Countries Visited:

Aruba, Austria, Australia, Bermuda, Belgium, Botswana, Canada, China, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Rep., Egypt, England, Fiji, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, India, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Jordan, Luxembourg, Mexico, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Puerto Rico, Russia, South Africa, Spain, St. Marten (fr), St. Martin (nd), Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine, USA, Vatican, Zimbabwe

Traveler Since: 2002

August 20, 2013

 Ed,

I find that hard to believe too  As best as I can figure, using Google Earth, the top of them dam is about 680 ft. above sea level. Do you have  any idea how high that bridge is/was above sea level? I don't know how close to the top of the dam the water is expected to go.

Jack

Author: wattsed

Joined: 3/30/2010
Posts: 137
Trips Taken: 3
Countries Visited:

All seven continents, 113 countries and all states except Hawaii and Idaho.Plus some interesting places that are not countries such as The zores, Falkland Islands, South Georgia, etc.

Traveler Since: 2010

August 20, 2013

Jack,   According to official history, the dam itself is 594 feet high and the  normal elevation of the water level is 574 feet.  By the end of 2008 the water level in the reservoir had reached  566 feet and by the end of October 2010 it had reached the full pool elevation of 574 feet which was its designed maximum.   When we went up the river beginning at the dam, the river was very low..In fact, we had to get off at Fen Du and bussed the rest of the way since the river level was so low that a cruise boat ahead of us had lodged on a sand bar...we went up the lesser three gorges in very small boats and as we went under the bridge, I would have guessed it was maybe 75 to 100 feet above the river level at that time...As we went up the Yangze there were markers all along the river showing the various levels that the river would reach when the reservoir began filling...as I recall without trying to find my pictures, the first marker was 75 meters followed by others in either 25 or 50 meter increments until reaching the top which was 205 meters...these were very large signs which were white with black numbers...I don't know the elevation of the lesser three gorges entrance but I guess it is possible that the bridge is now 200 feet under water.

Author: pauline

Joined: 3/9/2010
Posts: 970
Trips Taken: 11
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England, Scotland, Ireland, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Malta, Israel, Australia, New Zealand, China, Mexico, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Canada, Russia, Ukraine

Traveler Since: 1999

August 21, 2013

I was there in 1998, and I purchased a book in Chungching (sp) that was copied from a painting done of that whole area, including the Lesser Gorges.  The painting had a red string showing the projected height of the water when everything was finished and the water had filled up.  I just tried to find the book, but I've moved several times in the interim and I must have given it away.  It was an amazing project, and we were told they did it with no international help.

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